Rum Doings Episode 114: Special Surprise Episode
by John Walker on Jul.30, 2012, under Rum Doings, The Rest
In a surprise early episode 114 of Rum Doings, Nick and John record an episode while the events of the weekend are fresh in their minds. Nick attended the Olympic opening ceremony, and has quite a bit to say on the Britain it portrayed. While John wrote a blog post (below) that rather a lot of people looked at. We discuss them both, entirely forgetting to have a topic not to talk about.
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July 30th, 2012 on 19:53
Superb opening monologue by Nick. Very clearly explained what was great about that ceremony, and how hideous people complaining about it have been.
I was aware of Nick’s original tweet, although I can see why new readers mistook it in quite a combative comments thread. I look forward to you discussing the Guardian in more depth. What you have portrayed as a trend I have seen as some incidents, so I would like you to argue the pervasive nature of it.
July 30th, 2012 on 22:42
“The best of who we are and who we want to be”.
That is an important summation of what stuff should like Olympic ceremonies should be, I think.
July 31st, 2012 on 00:12
The comment from Andy was kind of bonkers. I kept hoping for it to take a last minute turn into a coherent, non-problematic argument as you read it, but then it never did. Kind of bummed me out
In a modest (very modest) defense of poor Andy, I wonder if maybe he simply didn’t realize that his opinion on this was racially problematic. Maybe your comment will lead him to realize that he was really wrong about it, or perhaps he just wasn’t thinking and put forth an argument he didn’t really mean and is even embarrassed by.
That’s happened to me before in the heat of the moment. I remember an argument on RPS about transgendered people that I look back on with a great deal of regret. Sometimes your words just get away from you on the internet.
July 31st, 2012 on 15:46
Arthur, I have had similar experience of saying things that I now cringe at. Genuinely cringe at. Thinking that because I was broadly supportive of gays and gay rights (say) gave me license to say very ignorant and hurtful things ‘ironically’.
July 31st, 2012 on 15:50
To be honest, my biggest problem with the opening ceremony was the commentators talking all over it. I am not sure, but it sounded like Trevor Nelson’s mic was turned up too much.
I watched it all cynical and expecting to find it overwrought and embarassing but genuinely loved it.
Except for the commentators. They were annoying. I don’t need Huw Edwards to tell me about the Windrush.
July 31st, 2012 on 16:11
Evert: a joy about being there live was the lack of commentators! You should have pressed the red button: you could have chosen just the ambient sounds, sans commentary.
August 1st, 2012 on 07:55
If only I had known…