Rum Doings Episode 86: Braille Loaf Bread
by John Walker on Sep.22, 2011, under Rum Doings, The Rest
In episode 86 we drink rum that has been kissed by a butterfly, and practise our live cabaret show. There’s discussion of John’s cupboards, and the youth of today.
Then there’s the somewhat awkward bringing up of John’s wedding list. Which we then plug. Because we have no shame. Not even enough shame to not link it from here, nor to omit saying that the number is 312865. If someone wanted to donate toward the TV. Maybe. Ahem.
How to be friends with people of different intelligences? And how brilliant John is in the eyes of a five year old. And whether Nick should have another child. And then the scandalous revelations about how Nick would mistreat his younger brothers. How long will John live?
And that’s it until after John’s honeymoon. Unless he does record one out there. Which he probably won’t.
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September 22nd, 2011 on 13:25
As the noblest man we know, I think the Rummites can club together and give you one hundred pence. Who’s with me?
September 22nd, 2011 on 13:51
I’m actually a bit torn right now. In my bank account, I have exactly £1.39; the exact amount needed for this month’s RPS Subscribership.
Should I betray RPS for a single node of the hivemind?
September 22nd, 2011 on 14:21
Alex, I say you should spend that money on yourself.
September 22nd, 2011 on 14:31
Alex, what better way to spend it on yourself than to give your past self a present from the mysterious future, specifically 86 episodes of Rum Doings.
September 22nd, 2011 on 16:01
Thankfully I’m getting paid soon, but it will probably be after the wedding! So I must do *something*.
September 22nd, 2011 on 20:50
Yay! You answered my anonymous formspring question :) fame at last!
September 22nd, 2011 on 23:19
You can use “try and” to indicate beyond doubt that you will succeed, surely. As in “We will try and kill him” means that you will try, and you will kill him. Though that’s arguably more to use as a persuasive technique than anything else, as you can’t know whether you’ll succeed beforehand. Unless it’s totally certain, or… argh!
Anyway, it’s “try to” otherwise. And children are evil, everyone knows this. Especially the charming ones,
September 23rd, 2011 on 02:14
I think John is right, on the “try and”/”try to” thing. I don’t even think “try and” sounds better – “try to” flows better and also has some alliteration going on.
September 23rd, 2011 on 05:08
I remember, when I was about six, being in a McDonalds, and the lady sitting near us had brought a table cloth and nice crystal and silverware because it was her boyfriend’s birthday. Crucial difference between your plan, John, is that she was surprising her boyfriend with this, and it was because McDonalds was “his favorite restaurant.” I’ve always wondered how well that went over.
Just saying though, your scheme, more or less, has a good couple decades of established history on it. I also just realize that that lady must be getting rather old by now. She’ll always be young and naive in my mind, however!
September 23rd, 2011 on 08:16
I found that episode exceptionally funny. I enjoyed John’s impression of future Judith, and Nick cracking up at his own incredibly bad joke.
Have a splendid wedding John.
September 24th, 2011 on 13:56
I found the whole Braille Loaf thing extremely hilarious, and it seems young Nick was very clever as a child as well :D
I could imagine John being very good with children, and I kind of wish he was my Uncle.
September 24th, 2011 on 20:49
Future Judith and the loaf are the best bits.
Nick is right about ‘try and’, of course.
September 25th, 2011 on 06:02
I’ve remembered why it’s “to”. It’s actually just “try”. Try is one verb, and whatever you’re trying to do is another. ie: “to try to eat” is two verbs; “to try”, and “to eat”. “And eat” is meaningless. If the “and” version were correct, then other similar phrases would be as well, like “I want and eat” instead of “I want to eat”.
September 25th, 2011 on 06:28
You may want to look up ‘idiom’ in your dictionary.
September 25th, 2011 on 07:23
Sinister Agent: The “to” has no more a-priori rectitude than the “and”, as you’ve admitted. The “and” construct is ancient, uniform, rule-based and regular.
September 25th, 2011 on 07:43
But I can see a case for both sides! Don’t make me chooooose!
September 29th, 2011 on 08:41
@sinister agent
In that case I propose a compromise: “try and to.” That will surely work!
October 3rd, 2011 on 16:36
Your wedding list at this point consists of three TVs (two of which are identical) and a rug. Are you sure you’ve thought this through?