Comments on: Game Media Awards

By: Rev. S Campbell

Rev. S Campbell — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:00:16 +0000

Marketing people lie for a living. No matter how lovely they might be – and many are perfectly super people – that’s still their job. So it’s utterly fair to imply that they lack credibility. Of course, maybe you think that the three official magazines really are the best in their fields, in which case you can make the argument that they’re honest and accurate regardless. But otherwise, it’s a bit like saying that someone who opens fire randomly from a shopping-centre overpass with an assault rifle isn’t necessarily a bad person, on the grounds that he happened to hit a paedophile.

Not giving EVERY award to a loathsome cunt is pretty much a pre-requisite for attaching any kind of credence to cynical “awards” events like this. The fact that some people who deserved awards got some here doesn’t change the core of what this event was about one iota, and John’s already done a pretty good job of identifying that. Credibility? Two words: Steve fucking Boxer.

By: Tombola

Tombola — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:02:31 +0000

“What what what? It’s totally fair to say that – not because chaps like Leo aren’t jolly good eggs and whatnot, but because their job presents a huge conflict of interest. I’m sure there are plenty of PRs who can put this aside, but I’m absolutely certain that there are plenty who can’t as well.”

I certainly don’t deny there are some PRs who won’t be able to put aside their loyalties and prejudices, I just don’t believe it’s an absolute. I wouldn’t like my reputation as a writer to hang on what the people I compete against do or say, for instance, and I don’t see too much of a distinction between arguing it does and arguing all PRs lack integrity.

(That said, I did pick up food poisoning the night after I won, so perhaps it’s bigger than any of us understand.)

By: Martin

Martin — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:07:04 +0000

Bramwell and Gillen are both good writers and Eurogamer is a mighty fine website, so at least something not-awful came of this.

Quoth Tombola: “it is unfair to imply that the people who vote lack personal credibility on the basis that they are PRs, marketing men, or whoever.”

What what what? It’s totally fair to say that – not because chaps like Leo aren’t jolly good eggs and whatnot, but because their job presents a huge conflict of interest. I’m sure there are plenty of PRs who can put this aside, but I’m absolutely certain that there are plenty who can’t as well.

By: העולם על פי אינטל » ארכיון הבלוג » ברכות לקיירון! (והפעם, ברצינות)

העולם על פי אינטל » ארכיון הבלוג » ברכות לקיירון! (והפעם, ברצינות) — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:32:03 +0000

[...] ובכן, הוא זכה. ובכך הגיעה לסיומו סיפור ממושך ומעט-הזוי. בעוד שחברו למקצוע, ג’ון ווקר (כתב מוצלח מאוד בזכות עצמו) קורא לו (ולמעשה, לכל שאר הזוכים) לוותר על הפרס, קיירון גילן אומר שהפרסים הללו בכל מקרה לא משנים יותר מדי, ושהחרמה שלהם רק תתן להם חשיבות שלא ממש מגיעה להם, ומוציאה אותו כפוץ מנופח. [...]

By: Kieron Gillen’s Workblog » Once And Never Again

Kieron Gillen’s Workblog » Once And Never Again — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:20:56 +0000

[...] Okay – the award. Well, Walker’s already said that Tom and I should have turned it down. Stuart’s already said I violates the memory of AP, in his usual cheery idiom. And past me has called present me a lapdog. [...]

By: John

John — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:50:10 +0000

It was about relevance, not ability. And was hardly the crux of my post.

By: Andy Krouwel

Andy Krouwel — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:16:21 +0000

It was this line that prompted my reponse:

“Shall they next be voting for the best greengrocers at the Greengrocer Awards, because they eat fruit and vegetables?”

Which seems to be stating that consumers shouldn’t be judging producers. Seemed like an odd thing to say, so I brought it up. Sorry if it sounded acusatory though, I should of course have used ‘one’ where I said ‘you’.

By: Rev. S Campbell

Rev. S Campbell — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:26:12 +0000

BEST PLAYSTATION MAGAZINE
Official Playstation Magazine (Future)

BEST NINTENDO MAGAZINE
Official Nintendo Magazine (Future)

BEST XBOX MAGAZINE
Official Xbox Magazine (Future)

BEST GAMES WRITER ON NATIONAL NEWSPAPER
Steve Boxer (Guardian)

Congratulations, Kieron and Tom. You’re truly part of the industry now.

By: John

John — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:23:09 +0000

If it had been on your blog Rammy, I’d have dropped dead of shock that you were posting a reasoned diatribe that actually met the remit you claim to exist for : )

You know, rather than attacking the websites helplessly nominated by these cretinous awards for not being advert free, rather than the awards themselves.

By: Rev. S Campbell

Rev. S Campbell — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:52:17 +0000

Except, of course, that there’s no mention of corruption anywhere in the post. Or, come to that, stupidity or incompetence.