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		<title>By: bothererblog &#187; Shock Horror Man Vs Wild Faked Shock!</title>
		<link>http://botherer.org/2007/03/15/phoney-phone-ins/comment-page-1/#comment-3970</link>
		<dc:creator>bothererblog &#187; Shock Horror Man Vs Wild Faked Shock!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Deeply peculiar news story, following on from the debacle I mentioned would get bigger and stupider back in March. Channel 4 are being forced to investigate claims that Bear Grylls&#8217; Man Vs Wild is faked. Something I mentioned a couple of days back. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Deeply peculiar news story, following on from the debacle I mentioned would get bigger and stupider back in March. Channel 4 are being forced to investigate claims that Bear Grylls&#8217; Man Vs Wild is faked. Something I mentioned a couple of days back. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chewing pixels &#187; The Cameraman Never Lies</title>
		<link>http://botherer.org/2007/03/15/phoney-phone-ins/comment-page-1/#comment-3969</link>
		<dc:creator>chewing pixels &#187; The Cameraman Never Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s all a little yawnsome because, we mostly know that at one level or another, much of what we see in television is a lie/ set-up. Sometimes it&#8217;s in a horrible and exploitative ways but mostly it&#8217;s just because of the way in which producers have to tell a story using cameras. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s all a little yawnsome because, we mostly know that at one level or another, much of what we see in television is a lie/ set-up. Sometimes it&#8217;s in a horrible and exploitative ways but mostly it&#8217;s just because of the way in which producers have to tell a story using cameras. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tedi Worrier</title>
		<link>http://botherer.org/2007/03/15/phoney-phone-ins/comment-page-1/#comment-3968</link>
		<dc:creator>Tedi Worrier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? That nice Mr Palin .... surely not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? That nice Mr Palin &#8230;. surely not!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve W</title>
		<link>http://botherer.org/2007/03/15/phoney-phone-ins/comment-page-1/#comment-3967</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chortle. They did the same thing in...Sahara, I think it was. This time a train is shown disappearing into the distance, a lonely Palin aboard as his camera crew is left in the desert to rot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chortle. They did the same thing in&#8230;Sahara, I think it was. This time a train is shown disappearing into the distance, a lonely Palin aboard as his camera crew is left in the desert to rot.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://botherer.org/2007/03/15/phoney-phone-ins/comment-page-1/#comment-3966</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my favourites was Michael Palin&#039;s original Around The World In 80 Days. He was stuck in the middle of nowhere, and the whole expedition looked like it was going to end in failure. And then there was hope - one last wagon was leaving, the last for days, and he managed to secure passage. He&#039;s fears of miserable starvation and death were averted. We saw the wagon pulling away, and then, best of all, disappearing over the horizon. Presumably the tapes of this shot were recovered from the dead bodies of the production crew when people returned months later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my favourites was Michael Palin&#8217;s original Around The World In 80 Days. He was stuck in the middle of nowhere, and the whole expedition looked like it was going to end in failure. And then there was hope &#8211; one last wagon was leaving, the last for days, and he managed to secure passage. He&#8217;s fears of miserable starvation and death were averted. We saw the wagon pulling away, and then, best of all, disappearing over the horizon. Presumably the tapes of this shot were recovered from the dead bodies of the production crew when people returned months later.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve W</title>
		<link>http://botherer.org/2007/03/15/phoney-phone-ins/comment-page-1/#comment-3965</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh lordy, yes. Everybody lies in TV land. What never fails to surprise me though, is how stupid some of these programme-makers think we are. Most don&#039;t even bother to conceal their duplicity.

There&#039;s the TELEPORTING CAMERA, for example, where a show (be it Garden Force or some such wankery) presents us with the scene of a presenter&#039;s knocking on the door of a supposedly-unsuspecting member of the public. As the door is answered, the camera view switches to a shot from INSIDE the property, showing said supposedly-unsuspecting member of the public answering the door.

The TELEPORTING CAMERA pops up in all kinds of places. Another such show I saw recently had its presenter becoming a motorcycle courier for the day. One of his jobs was to collect a package someone had left at their flat and race it to the airport in time for a flight. Despite the fact that this was supposed to be a genuine race against the clock, they somehow still had the time to show the presenter&#039;s journey from at least a dozen fixed positions along the route.

They did the exact same thing when he posed as a firefighter a couple of weeks later; unless the producers were actually responsible for setting the blaze, their remarkable prescience should now result in their being cut open and tested in the same secret Govt. lab as our Derren.

I don&#039;t care particularly that these scenes were staged, either wholly or after the event; it just annoys me that they think I&#039;m too stupid to notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh lordy, yes. Everybody lies in TV land. What never fails to surprise me though, is how stupid some of these programme-makers think we are. Most don&#8217;t even bother to conceal their duplicity.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s the TELEPORTING CAMERA, for example, where a show (be it Garden Force or some such wankery) presents us with the scene of a presenter&#8217;s knocking on the door of a supposedly-unsuspecting member of the public. As the door is answered, the camera view switches to a shot from INSIDE the property, showing said supposedly-unsuspecting member of the public answering the door.</p>
<p>The TELEPORTING CAMERA pops up in all kinds of places. Another such show I saw recently had its presenter becoming a motorcycle courier for the day. One of his jobs was to collect a package someone had left at their flat and race it to the airport in time for a flight. Despite the fact that this was supposed to be a genuine race against the clock, they somehow still had the time to show the presenter&#8217;s journey from at least a dozen fixed positions along the route.</p>
<p>They did the exact same thing when he posed as a firefighter a couple of weeks later; unless the producers were actually responsible for setting the blaze, their remarkable prescience should now result in their being cut open and tested in the same secret Govt. lab as our Derren.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care particularly that these scenes were staged, either wholly or after the event; it just annoys me that they think I&#8217;m too stupid to notice.</p>
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		<title>By: RAM Raider</title>
		<link>http://botherer.org/2007/03/15/phoney-phone-ins/comment-page-1/#comment-3964</link>
		<dc:creator>RAM Raider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The key thing to remember is: everything on TV is a lie.&quot;

Almost as if they&#039;re trying to compete with the games mags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The key thing to remember is: everything on TV is a lie.&#8221;</p>
<p>Almost as if they&#8217;re trying to compete with the games mags.</p>
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		<title>By: Smee</title>
		<link>http://botherer.org/2007/03/15/phoney-phone-ins/comment-page-1/#comment-3963</link>
		<dc:creator>Smee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. That was wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. That was wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: antichaos</title>
		<link>http://botherer.org/2007/03/15/phoney-phone-ins/comment-page-1/#comment-3962</link>
		<dc:creator>antichaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure you know but...Someone I knew worked at the local radio station in Guildford.  She would sometimes have to call up her friends and ask them to call the station with an answer to a competition question (which she fed them) and then to act ecstatic when they won.  I&#039;m not sure whether this was because they didn&#039;t get many callers, or because the ones they got couldn&#039;t be bothered to be excited about winning, which doesn&#039;t make good radio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you know but&#8230;Someone I knew worked at the local radio station in Guildford.  She would sometimes have to call up her friends and ask them to call the station with an answer to a competition question (which she fed them) and then to act ecstatic when they won.  I&#8217;m not sure whether this was because they didn&#8217;t get many callers, or because the ones they got couldn&#8217;t be bothered to be excited about winning, which doesn&#8217;t make good radio.</p>
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		<title>By: USA Phone Directory &#187; Phoney Phone-Ins</title>
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		<dc:creator>USA Phone Directory &#187; Phoney Phone-Ins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Original post by John and plugin by Elliott Back [...]</description>
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